We had our good friend Josh Hopkins on the show this week. This episode is released in two parts. Part one is the main podcast that will show up on the feed that’s just like a normal interview episode; part two is downloadable from here and consists almost entirely of Josh filling us in on how his daughter Lucy Kate is doing after her open-heart surgery last month.

Main interview length: 26:05
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Lucy Kate Update run length: 13:19
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